Comments on: To dig or not to dig… http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/ Updated Tuesdays and Thursdays Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:29:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Rob Lundy http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2352 Rob Lundy Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:23:30 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2352 It's a weird situation to be sure. I was happy to buy their book... I'm all about the How to books, dummies books and art reference material.... but I only had to pay for those ONCE. I think that's my main beef with this idea. It’s a weird situation to be sure. I was happy to buy their book… I’m all about the How to books, dummies books and art reference material…. but I only had to pay for those ONCE. I think that’s my main beef with this idea.

]]> By: Lou Manglass http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2346 Lou Manglass Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:06:26 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2346 You know, it occurs to me that I sent in a question to a Webcomics Weekly a while ago about whether or not the guys thought something like this was needed for comic artists, a more freelance trade association for those who can't get into the NCS. Dave Kellett basically dismissed it as unecessary and unhelpful. If they start offering group health insurance and such down the road, I'm going to laugh. You know, it occurs to me that I sent in a question to a Webcomics Weekly a while ago about whether or not the guys thought something like this was needed for comic artists, a more freelance trade association for those who can’t get into the NCS. Dave Kellett basically dismissed it as unecessary and unhelpful. If they start offering group health insurance and such down the road, I’m going to laugh.

]]> By: Cannon Hamaker http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2345 Cannon Hamaker Mon, 18 Jan 2010 05:38:29 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2345 I'm split on the whole thing, I bought their book, and have enjoyed the occasional read at the site. But although the content was great, I hardly think it's correct to put content that other people have created behind a pay wall without some sort of remuneration to the creator. That said, The halfpixel guys are great, and I want to see them get paid. I’m split on the whole thing, I bought their book, and have enjoyed the occasional read at the site. But although the content was great, I hardly think it’s correct to put content that other people have created behind a pay wall without some sort of remuneration to the creator. That said, The halfpixel guys are great, and I want to see them get paid.

]]> By: Rob Lundy http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2340 Rob Lundy Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:48:47 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2340 LOL... yes Brody seems the type to blurt incoherent dribble, however I do agree... that should have been are... Good catch! Thanks for the URLs Lou. I'll have to check them out! LOL… yes Brody seems the type to blurt incoherent dribble, however I do agree… that should have been are… Good catch!

Thanks for the URLs Lou. I’ll have to check them out!

]]> By: AdamW13 http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2339 AdamW13 Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:32:22 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2339 I like the comic. Keep up the good work. vogerl... it's dialogue. Not only does it not have to be grammatically correct, but it shouldn't be. Especially with a character like Brody. I like the comic. Keep up the good work.

vogerl… it’s dialogue. Not only does it not have to be grammatically correct, but it shouldn’t be. Especially with a character like Brody.

]]> By: vogerl http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2338 vogerl Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:00:14 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2338 first panel, first bubble: there sure ARE a lot.... ? first panel, first bubble: there sure ARE a lot…. ?

]]> By: Lou Manglass http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2337 Lou Manglass Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:46:11 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2337 And another site just popped up in response to the closing of the forums (to public/free use). They just sent me an e-mail, I haven't checked them out yet so I can't say anything about them but I thought it was interesting: http://webcomicscommunity.com/ Man, it would be neat to have a way to edit comments. Now I have three, and I only need one! And another site just popped up in response to the closing of the forums (to public/free use). They just sent me an e-mail, I haven’t checked them out yet so I can’t say anything about them but I thought it was interesting:

http://webcomicscommunity.com/

Man, it would be neat to have a way to edit comments. Now I have three, and I only need one!

]]> By: Lou Manglass http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2336 Lou Manglass Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:53:19 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2336 You know, I just wrote that long-winded opinion piece and then I saw this at Tall-Tale Features: http://talltalefeatures.com/2010/01/06/all-quiet-on-the-ttf-front/ Looks like they're replacing Webcomics.com, and with a more laid-back attitude to boot! You know, I just wrote that long-winded opinion piece and then I saw this at Tall-Tale Features:

http://talltalefeatures.com/2010/01/06/all-quiet-on-the-ttf-front/

Looks like they’re replacing Webcomics.com, and with a more laid-back attitude to boot!

]]> By: Lou Manglass http://www.consolehopping.com/2010/01/07/to-dig-or-not-to-dig/#comment-2335 Lou Manglass Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:48:08 +0000 http://www.consolehopping.com/?p=341#comment-2335 A comic is supposed to be more general-interest, while a site about how to commercialize your comic is pretty specific. I don't know that advertising money would have really been good, as the traffic must be pretty low (webcomic creators vs. webcomic consumers). Also, they seemed even from the beginning to really intend to be for "professional" artists on the web, and they intended to gear their articles towards supporting that. From that perspective, I don't think the move was out of line. It's like a professional journal, in a way. The reality is, though, I just don't think there are enough "professional" (what does that even mean, anyway?) web cartoonists out there to support the move, and I think the very fact that Mr. Guigar felt he was putting too much time in to it shows that he doesn't really have a strong community behind it. I think they should have solicited more articles from users and frankly I would have walked away earlier or asked the other Halfpixel guys to pick up some of the slack. I like Mr. Guigar, and he has the know-how: He has written books on cartooning and given me some valuable advice. I just don't know if he'll be able to make enough off of this site (either through advertising or registration) to really make it worth his time to do all that work. I support his choice, but at the same time I think Webcomics.com is going the way of the dodo. And you missed some good articles, but nothing you can't get on the 'Net at large. There were some cool checklists and such for conventions, printing books and things like that, and it was a good single source for all of it, but I don't really think you're left out in the cold by missing it. A comic is supposed to be more general-interest, while a site about how to commercialize your comic is pretty specific. I don’t know that advertising money would have really been good, as the traffic must be pretty low (webcomic creators vs. webcomic consumers). Also, they seemed even from the beginning to really intend to be for “professional” artists on the web, and they intended to gear their articles towards supporting that. From that perspective, I don’t think the move was out of line. It’s like a professional journal, in a way.

The reality is, though, I just don’t think there are enough “professional” (what does that even mean, anyway?) web cartoonists out there to support the move, and I think the very fact that Mr. Guigar felt he was putting too much time in to it shows that he doesn’t really have a strong community behind it. I think they should have solicited more articles from users and frankly I would have walked away earlier or asked the other Halfpixel guys to pick up some of the slack.

I like Mr. Guigar, and he has the know-how: He has written books on cartooning and given me some valuable advice. I just don’t know if he’ll be able to make enough off of this site (either through advertising or registration) to really make it worth his time to do all that work. I support his choice, but at the same time I think Webcomics.com is going the way of the dodo.

And you missed some good articles, but nothing you can’t get on the ‘Net at large. There were some cool checklists and such for conventions, printing books and things like that, and it was a good single source for all of it, but I don’t really think you’re left out in the cold by missing it.

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